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In this May 11, 2008 file photo, former President George H.W. Bush arrives on the South Lawn of White House in Washington. Bush died at the age of 94 on Friday, Nov. 30, 2018, about eight months after the death of his wife, Barbara Bush. (AP Photo / Lawrence Jackson, File)

Chicagoan Samuel Skinner knew former President George H.W. Bush, who died Friday at age 94, for nearly 40 years. Skinner joins us in conversation.

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She was one of the strongest voices in the school reform movement, but less than a decade ago, Diane Ravitch, a former assistant secretary of education under President George H. W. Bush, had a change of heart.